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February 10, 2006

Reading Lists or Grazing Lists?

Adam Green has scripted an OPML Reading List for Tech Memeorandum which is dynamically updated, hourly, with feeds for the blogs that have made the frontpage of that memetracker. This is a terrific use of OPML but I think the results are more suited to a Grazing List (glist?[1]) than a Reading List.

I think of Reading Lists as small (10 or less feeds) lists that change slowly (weekly or less frequently). But Adam's is a high volume, fast changing list. And with over 50 feeds currently I think its a little overwhelming as a Reading List. Joshua Porter seems to be thinking similarly[2] -

"The blogs got there because of some really interesting post, because they’re somehow related to the top stories of the day. In other words, the blogs themselves may or may not be interesting to me other than their one, attention-getting post. So OPML might not be the best solution at this level. So the question is: are reading lists dynamic? Or is it simply news headlines that are?"

Well I think that OPML still is the best solution but the means of accessing it needs to change. I'll continue to use BlogBridge for subscription to Reading Lists because aggregation of small, slow changing lists is still essentially subscription. But for access to large, quickly changing lists I think its more appropriate to use a Feed Grazer like Taskable or OPod, which allow you to quickly scan numerous feed items from the blogs with which you aren't familiar before deciding to subscribe (with a regular aggregator). It's a subtle difference but nevertheless an important one.

Better again, imagine if Adam's script could generate a multi-level OPML hierarchy with the feeds for the original story in the top level nodes and the referencing blogs leading off those as sub-nodes. Now that would be getting close to the "evanescent, biotic OPML hierarchies" I spoke of yesterday.

[1] I noticed that some bloggers, like Matt Terenzio for instance, are using the term glists to, apparently, refer to multimedia reading lists but I can't find the origin of the usage. I previously suggested the word Beed (Bundle of feeds) for the same purpose but whatever sticks is fine by me, as long as we have a term that doesn't limit us to thinking of dynamic OPML lists as text only.

[2] Amy Bellinger is also feeling feedinundation and thinks that reading lists should have between 4 and 6 feed. She suggests making groups of lists if you need more. And what better way to represent lists of reading lists than with OPML hierarchies?

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Posted by: Matt Terenzio | Feb 13, 2006 4:58:30 PM

Ragrding glists.
Amy and I talked about it in the comments below.

http://learnandteachonline.com/node/300

The gist on glists? Nothing magical.

readin(glists), listenin(glists) watchin(glists) and now

grazin(glists).

So beeds and glists are somewhat synonyms.

Posted by: Matt Terenzio | Feb 13, 2006 5:03:17 PM

Ah, ok, makes sense Matt. One question - how is it pronounced? Is it gee-list or simply glist (as in glisten)?

Posted by: James Corbett | Feb 13, 2006 7:32:31 PM

I think it's got to be glist as in glisten. Gee-list is the rank used for bloggers like me. ;)

Posted by: Matt Terenzio | Feb 13, 2006 8:47:52 PM

Lol, nice one! ;-)

The only problem I see with the word is that there's not a clear difference between it and 'list' when speaking it. But hey, let's not get hung up on it...

Posted by: James Corbett | Feb 14, 2006 9:37:58 AM

The Tech Memeorandum Reading List is a great idea, this is Reading Lists at their best, as the feeds in this list will constantly be changing (there is no way a human could keep up with doing this manually, and the main part is that you are not subscribing to this OPML because of the feeds, it because of the posts)

I guess a Reading List based on the hottest blogs of the hour changes things a bit.

Some Reading Lists don't change much, and you may be happy with that as you like the feeds.

But some like The Tech Memeorandum Reading List would be changing constantly, and I wouldn't really subscribe to this OPML for the feeds, it's more for the posts, as the feeds aren't around for long...but it is a great way to discover feeds anyway.

So is this sort of Reading List (constantly changing) being called a Grazing List...basically a machine is changing the feeds in the OPML, it's not a human adding/deleting feeds in an OPML.

Posted by: John Tropea | Feb 16, 2006 6:45:57 AM

Exactly John, that's the kind of list I've been referring to as a Grazing List - high volume, fast changing, (most likely) programmatically generated.

Posted by: James Corbett | Feb 16, 2006 12:30:58 PM

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